Talk:Rama/@comment-24061917-20131218161450

could be the king of the end, lucifer? talves the hebleus got a god from another culture and in tranfomaram demon, lucifer related to war and the end of time and light, is also listed as chief of demons.

Isaiah 14 is a prophecy about the fall of the king of Babylon (see 14:4 ). This king - exalted, seeking to take the glory that belongs to God. The prophecy of Isaiah 14 shows that he would be knocked back to earth.

It is interesting that the New Testament talks about the " morning star " ( 2 Peter 1:19 ) and the " morning star " ( Revelation 2:28, 22:16). In all these passages it is clear that the morning star is not Satan, or any other blasphemous creature. Jesus himself is the bright morning star who blesses his faithful servants.

So why the name " Lucifer " is often applied to Satan ? The use came from a misreading of Isaiah 14:12. Many commentators have inserted something bigger in this text, seeing it as an explanation of the origin of Satan. Certainly there is reason to believe that the Devil was one of the angels (Job 1:6 ), he has been in rebellion against God before the creation of the earth ( 1 John 3:8 ; see Genesis 3 ) , and that several angels followed their disobedience and will be eternally punished ( Jude 6 ). What did the king of Babylon was the same kind of sin : challenging the authority of the King of kings. In this sense, we can think of " Lucifer " as a son or disciple of Satan (see John 8:44 ) , but the prophecy of Isaiah 14:12 is not speaking specifically of the Devil.